Dr. Gabor Maté shares his reflections on Israel/Palestine together with latest tragic occasions on and following October seventh, 2023. This dialog was recorded on October 28, 2023, and was facilitated by Hannah Maté. Please be aware to have interaction in respectful discourse within the feedback amidst inevitable political disagreement on this material.
Assets – Cited in Video:
Locations to donate:
The Palestinian Kids’s Reduction Fund – www.pcrf.internet
Dror Israel – www.drorisrael.org
Please share extra worthy causes within the feedback
Social media handles/hyperlinks of voices/activism on the subject of Israel/Palestine:
Jewish Voice for Peace – @Jewishvoiceforpeace
Unbiased Jewish Voices – www. ijvcanada.og
If Not Now – @Ifnotnoworg
Democracy Now! – @democracynow
Gideon Levy – @levy_haaretz
Amira Hass – @Hass_Haaretz
Chris Hedges – @chrislynnhedges
Norman Finkelstein – @normfinkelstein
The Grayzone Information – @thegrayzonenews
Ali Abunimah – @aliabunimah – and The Digital Intifada
Yousef Munayyer – @yousefmunayyer
Noura Erakat – @4noura
Aaron Maté – @aaronjmate
Daniel Maté – @danielbmate
Books really helpful by Gabor on this video:
The Delivery of Israel: Myths and Realities by Simha Flapan
The Hundred Years’ Struggle on Palestine: A Historical past of Settler Colonialism and Resistance, 1917–2017 by Rashid Khalidi
Gaza: An Inquest Into Its Martyrdom by Norman Finkelstein
The Ethnic Cleaning of Palestine by Ilan Pappé
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Gabor Mate is wrong about Israel twice (Bad arguments and playing the ‘JEWish card’):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGOSrl3UPUg
So measured and seeking of truth and reality as seen by the ‘Other’ in all the diversity of who is the ‘Other’ in time and space. Listening is a vital attribute, as is observing, as is reflection, as is the honest broadcasting of all that is heard, observed, and reflected upon. We are the ‘other’ sometimes, and sometimes we are a party to the mother’. Hear is a wise man who needs to be listened to, observed, and reflected upon in order to honestly appraise that which he speaks about.
We the people deserve to hear better and new stories anymore. I would like to say NOW, but obviously it doesn't seem possible to clean up the mess and PAY FOR THE LAST 80 YEARS justice in a short time.
But i insist to hear different stories anymore.
Since Bosna war till now we see UN, NATO.. any organization are useless to stop wars. So in my opinion we need some other does work with HIGH RATE PENALTIES. For example Iraq war (+Syria).. They just cleaned up the mess by a Hollywood star, Angelina Jolie (+organizations) that's why I hate her to normalize the wars.
We deserve to live on a peaceful world feeling the breeze, bird voices.. 🌬️🌸🍀
"PEACE AT HOME, PEACE ON WORLD" Atatürk
I was actually considering responding to each of your lies, but it seems pointless when there are enough sources available for any intelligent person to check for themselves and see through both of your deceptions. Here is a video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8bkqqvoGpc&t=1051s
But your lies about Gaza are unbelievable. Israel left Gaza in 2005 and removed all Jews from there. How would you describe the forced removal of all residents belonging to a certain ethnicity? Is that not ethnic cleansing?
Gaza has a border with Egypt. It's strange that you define Gaza as a prison when the Egyptians also have issues with them. The residents chose Hamas in 2006, and Hamas has killed tens of thousands of its own people.
Regarding the settlers, how many Jewish casualties are there in the territories? It's a shame that in World War II, people like you would be defined as Kapos, collaborators with the Nazis. It's disgraceful that a fool like you, a Jew, regarding your deluded daughter, those who defend are for the release of the kidnapped, not for Gaza.
Things I agree with: 1) Pain on all sides (as a trauma specialist Dr Mate should not minimise the trauma/fear, as linked to the Holocaust etc – Hamas has been successful in its brief about creating fear, horror, terror & trauma for Israelis). 2) The pursuit of a two-state solution & need for peaceful co-existence 3) Problem with the Likud charter, Netanyahu & elements of his extremist government. What he hasn't discussed is Jihad, Hamas, indoctrination in Gaza to hate Jews & destroy Israel. Hamas attacked Israel IN ORDER the get MAXIMUM CIVILIAN DEATHS for its PR CAMPAIGN. In 2008 virtually all the West Bank, Gaza, & E Jerusalem as capital of a sovereign Palestinian State. It was rejected by both the PA & Hamas. Then there's also Iran, how to manage its proxies. So what's the way forward while Hamas exists (Israelis are already calling for a new election – Netanyahu has just 15% popularity). I know his answer may be to abandon the ideal of a Jewish State. Realistically, that just not going to happen. So, speaking rationally – the real question here is how to disable the oppressive, dangerous authoritarian regime of Hamas (& Jihadist movements in Gaza) as well as how to overthrow the oppressive theocracy in Iran alongside developing peaceful co-existence.
Funny, you ONLY list links to all the antisemites and self hating jews, but NONE of the Muslim Arabs that support Israel and the war on Islamic Fascist hate? See #Luay Al Sharif for one…
Darfur children and Rohingya kids are 20x more traumatized than Palestinian kids….not to mention Bosnian, Sri Lanka Tamil, Uighur, South Sudan…Your expeience with the Shoah does not legitimize your perverted views .
Thank you both for sharing the truth with us.
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Thank you for your love and care for mankind, especially our children.
In viewing a Gabor Mate video on the Oct 7 massacre by Palestinian war criminals
in southern Israel, Mate reacts with the passion of a fly on the wall; however when viewing a
Youtube video of Gabor Mate talking about the Israeli assault on Gaza he's woken up all of a sudden
impassioned as though he can't wait to give it to Israel.
There are no videos of Gabor Mate explaining the Holocaust in Hungary, which he experienced
as a Jewish Hungarian where 434,000 Jews were deported on 147 trains to Auschwitz. And he
is an expert on pain and suffering??
All this raises suspicions.
🙏🙏🙏🌸🌸🌸🌹🌹🌹 You're a father figure to me, Dr. Mate!
This guy needs to eat a steak, have a cup of coffee, and go hunting.
As an American Jew, I couldn't agree more with Gabor Mate and was so moved by this interview. Thank you for your empathy, honesty, wisdom, and truth…
https://youtu.be/LGOSrl3UPUg?si=-L2by-FzyYJHGKGo
https://www.youtube.com/live/nAcOKdRnjRA?si=aE7Rr94UPNK6LhOU
Thank you with all my heart, dear Hannah & Dr Gabor Maté, for your amazing strength mentally & emotionally, in presenting this discussion of such an unspeakable calamity as this war. It was so enlightening & compassionate to both sides & all their suffering. ❤😢❤
What a gem there is. Gabor has always impress me and many on his frank, forthright talks. The world needs such personality to be able to navigate the dangerous wave threatening to destroy the world we live. As he always emphasised, and I quite agree with him that we cannot ignore the role of history in addressing critical issues. Welidone Hannah for anchoring the interview. World class!
Who hosted you in the West Bank?
Hard to listen to – misinformation and some sort of self hatred avoiding the heart of the matter.
He’s a disgrace. He’s been indoctrinated by all the woke/left nonsense over there in Vancouver. He is plain wrong on much of this subject. Also his books are all based on anecdotes and feelings and he offers almost no facts to support his claims on many things. The Palestinians only have themselves to blame for choosing hate and teaching their kids to hate. Israel wanted peace many time, they reject it because they want all Jews to die and this guy supports them?
what a waste of time for non-politicians to be discussing politics.
There is not a single politician alive, who is interested in peace if you think otherwise you are an idiot .
From the ashes, we rise. Hand in hand, heart to heart. We're better together, and evil shall find no rest with the gaze of love and grace. For after all, hate cannot drive out hate, only love can.
Dear Gabor. Ive been taking inspiration from you for a while, chiefly as a happily 9 yr sober alcoholic, but also as someone having a keen interest in all things psychollogical, emotional, and spiritual. You made the fact that trauma is the underlying cause of addiction crystal clear for me, but to stay in a state of blame regarding the traumatic event, and the people involved, does not help one move towards SURVIVING, STRIVIING & THRIVING into the future. I have learned along the way the significance of "THE VICTIM TRIANGLE", and the tendancy of people to REMAIN a victim because of the 'payoffs' it can deliver when 'rescuers' take PITY on a victim. It seems blatantly obvious to me that Zionists 'cling' to the horrors of those historical Nazi attrocities, via the Holocaust Rememberance Alliance. Unlike you, th3 Zionist movement have culitivated a sickeningly dangerous resentment from the twisted seed planted by the attempted Jewish genocide, and in the abscence of tangible justice for the perpetrators, it is a classic case of stubborn attachment to suffering, and the Palestinians are but a helpless easy target for the hate at the heart of all Israeli policy. It strikes me that YOU, of all people, are best situated & equipped to help these power-hungry, victimhood addicted perpetrators of genocide to see and move beyond their blind mission, and the denial, lies & disgraceful behavior. However, even you may not be capable of helping the madmen know & admit their madness. Until there is a massive shift in this terrifying global nightmare, I have no choice but to remain a fierce ANTI-ZIONIST, and will unapologetically insist on putting two extra letters, NA, in front of the word ZIONIST, whenever I speak or write it! What they are doing is demonstrating that HITLER may have had just cause to do what he did. The simple phrase: "Hurt people HURT people" sums up this whole terrible event.
You are hurting us with this nonsense. Israel is in trauma and you are spitting on us with your words. Please Gabor, please stop. Please
gabor,you tend to play the role of a martyr.
as a 56 years old israelian,who's family is here from 1920,i have a bit more experience than you do,with the conflict.
i also much more educated than you with the details,of the wars here.
i can say,that the other side is just as bad.
if you have a wish for a solution,you would have to stop talking about justice,and start talking about addressing the needs of both sides,and the need for safety.
it is easy to talk from the safety of canda.
the canadian option is not open for the majority majority,
This discussion has been refreshing in its balanced tone, its even handed exposition of the issues.
Another source of education I would recommend is Israeli-American Miko Peled, former zionist and IDF officer turned pro-Palestinian activist. His seminal work is "The General's Son." He has many videos addressing the history of Israeli-Palestinian relations.
You don't even realize it, but you're so stimulating, exciting, virile, attractive, penetrating that we read in your face a haven of happiness from your nose your eyes your gaze your eyebrows your dominant voice your way of asserting your dominance…if you're in Paris we'll see you because it's really intense what you give off…
What a beautiful dad & a daughter. Such a courageous yet difficult interview. Thank you both from the bottom of my heart. We all need to practice compassion, love & forgiveness everyday, they will become permanent 🙏
Thank you for facilitating this Hanna.
Thank you Dr Maté for your thoughtful and measured words.
The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.. you are both absolutely extraordinary people & we are blessed beyond words to have you both. I've been aware I'm traumatising myself by my determination to keep-up with as much info on this subject as I can but this is the first time I'm feeling @ peace & dare I say it the 1st time I feel hope. My heart is broken beyond repair … May the light lead & protect you both & your family. Thank you for helping us through this unbearable darkness❤
So much wisdom..❤
I saw Gabor Mate criticize Israel many times, and heard how he cried for two weeks for Palestine, and criticize Christianity, saying how Jordan Peterson is emotionally repressed, but he never dared to criticise Islam himself and he is the most traumatized self hating person you could ever find. He said Jordan Peterson's voice is shaking with repressed anger, but emotional repression seems very calm on the surface, on the contrary, a bit like he is. Falsely calm. To the point that you become desensitized from it. He argued that Jordan Peterson's supporters (I'm not a complete fan of JP but still think he has some great points) are full of hate, yet his pro-palestinian crowd is the most hateful you could ever imagine. But that's all fine for him, apparently. In a sort of retrospective Stockholm Syndrome, he has specialised in defending the people who were the closest allies of the nazis and prompted them to exterminate the jews, and have done so themselves throughout the Middle East : islamists. Gaza elected the islamist government Hamas and his genocidal charter against jews, and the largest proportion of them want to kill all jews. More so even than the German population under the Nazi regime. But he found his marketing "niche", as a token jew. Good for him because it brought him a big following. Funnily enough, the only religion that he DOES NOT criticize amongst the main three monotheist ones Judaism, Christianity and Islam, is the only one that is most responsible for the Holocaust (because Hitler was allied with Islamists, and advised by them on his final solution, which already exists in the Quran, and it didn't come from Christinity texts), and also the permanent abuse of minorities, LGBT people, jews, women, children… the most medievally backwards and still at the age of Obscurantism, that still allows slavery in manny countries TODAY, everything that the "left" that he is part of is suppose to hate. It's surely the worst religion (in particular wahhabism which is huge) of all three by all criterias, the most totalitarian one, the only one which is both proselyte and aggressive and attacks non-believers for "blasphemy" and tries to slowly impose sharia law in countries when it becomes more successful, but it is the only one he would never touch. Gabor Mae, I think you are truly touching, and truly kind, and I am sorry for what you endured. A part of my family didn't survived the Holocaust, and it definitely is a deeply traumatic period. But please work on yourself too, your own anger and issues, your own way to cope with this cognitive dissonance, if you are going to broadcast anti Israel messages to the world and be their token jew and transmute all your sadness for the Palestinian cause alone. Not just mediating or doing yoga or whatever you are doing to put yourself in this state of permanent calm slowness, because it's not compassionate, it's inhuman. War is absolutely horrible everywhere, but being an anti-sionnist today is appalling. Not less for you, but even more so. Firstly because you should know better, and secondly because you are being used by islamists to promote their obsessive and genocidal ambitions.
Thank you thank you for you courage to say the truth thank you
Thank you so much professor for your insights, however, it has been over 100 days since Israeli's attack on Gaza, Rafah, West Bank etc, it has been made very clear that the Israeli politicians are striving to eradicate the Palestinian people, Orit Strook says "The entire Land of Israel is ours and we are its, and for this reason there will not be a Palestinian state in the Land of Israel because there is no such thing as a Palestinian people." my question to you: do you still believe that what is happening is not a genocide? despite it being the most documented genocide in the history of humanity, despite the number of casualties, despite the obvious attack on women and children as ethnic procreational threat, despite the fact that the Israeli politicians are overtly claiming ethnic superiority and despite most Israelis support of the genocide, how can you possibly claim that what is happening in Palestine is not a genocide. By every definition Israel is conducting ethnic cleansing and are aiming to annihilate the Palestinian people in the hopes to completely occupy the Palestinians' land.
According to your view, what would be the right response from Israel?
Dr. Mate' approaches the Israel/Palestinian conflict in very human terms and you can't disagree with him. The broader issue is the tragedy of Israel, a state born of an illegitimate good ole boy agreement of British colonialists whose ulterior motives is always to create hot spots of conflict for their enduring divide and conquer, gang-counter-gang Great Game in the "middle east" as they dubbed West Asia. How best to stir the pot with proxies that will destroy each other while the Empire remains intact. Therein lies the tragedy. Israel can never rise above it's ugly colonial settler mentality which will eventually destroy it like so many Ozymandias of the past, dead in the ruins of history.
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My father passed away on October 7
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In a few months I went from Jordan Peterson to Gabor Maté… Your respective comments on this situation made me painfully realize that the most charismatic speakers aren't necessarily the best human beings… Thank you for your raw honesty, Dr Maté, your intellectual wisdom is inspiring beyond belief!
This is the natural liberal response to the events that unfolded – asking what made the people that expressed insane and inhumane levels of cruelty and hate towards me do these acts to me. But this is a wrong way. Not everybody are westerners. Some people simply have different, lower value for life, believe in afterlife for carrying a holy war, and are religiously fanatic, and this is very hard to wrap your head around for a liberal. Some people joyfully go to their deaths, as they carry 15kg of explosives around them, on their way to blow up in a restaurant and end their life together with couples, families, young folks celebrating their lives. Gabor mate is knowingly lying and telling half truths, hiding key facts, and exaggerating, to get praise from certain circles in the “decolonialism” faculty. The reality has nothing to do with what he says, and if one of you reading this wants to delve into it, I will happily lay it out for you.
When has Israel ever entered their territory and openly targeted civilians by the thousands in mass murder , rape and kidnapping ??? This is not the same at all